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[Dec. 30th, 2008|12:33 am]
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Edit - demo now changed - assemble 1230 at Embankment. See Stop the War website for info.


If you're going to burn a flag, please don't use man made fibres; this one smelled awful. Yes, that is a hassidic jew burning an Israeli flag, giving the very important reminder that race or tribe does not equate with government; that woudl be like holding me responsible for the invasion of Iraq, say.

I was at the afternoon demonstration outside the Israeli Embassy, a mix of everyone possible, really. There's a national demo at Parliament Sq on Saturday (2pm)* ; if what you read & see on the news appalls you, please be there. Don't be put off by 'extremists' (whatever they are, from wherever you're standing), the more people there who want a peaceful solution, the better. Frustratingly I'll be pulling out a much hated sound desk at work that day, but I'll be there in spirit. To reiterate, please be part of the peaceful majority?

People tell me it's not worth going to demos, but it is, if you believe in the cause; you're reminded you're not the only one, in one way or another your voice is heard (poll tax, apartheid, anyone?), and you to buy marvellous* publications like The Proletarian,which bnot only celebrates the centenary of Enver Hoxha, but urges Hamas to launch more rockets. Call me an old hippy, but I've yet to see how an escalation of violence ever solves anything, and it's certainly the last thing the middle east needs, in my opinion. I can also completely understand why those living in Gaza or the West Bank would turn to violence; you would too.

Palestine isn't even a country that far away, not that that matters. Dual Evening Standard boards tonight proclaimed 'riot police protect embassy' and 'Israel to 'fight to bitter end''. Politics and money are far too far removed from the lives of real people (and subjective news impossible to find), but to connect a little try this blog and Palestine Monitor.

If you can be there on Saturday, and care, then please do, It will make a difference, it will.


* it's still OK to take the piss out of Marxist-Leninists, right? Or indeed any self-righteous far left faction? To acquire some of my cynicism, read (and enjoy) 'Redemption ' by Tariq Ali

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[User Picture]From: [info]charleston
2008-12-30 08:04 am (UTC)

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Yeah, I think I'm gonna go on Saturday.

If you've not seen it, you might be interested in this:

Gaza Sderot, life in spite of everything

Gaza (Palestine) and Sderot (Israel): Report on the life of men, women and children in two cities on the Israeli Palestinian border. Tell about the reality on both sides. Despite of many dangers, air bombings and rocket attacks, those people never stop working, loving, and dreaming. Life despite of everything.

During two months short videos (2 minutes each) on Gaza and Sderot. Every day, one video from Palestine, the other one from Israel. One without the other only would show part of the reality.

This program was broadcasted daily from the 26th of October to the 23th of december 2008.
You will find 40 episodes (80 videos).


http://gaza-sderot.arte.tv/en/time/
[User Picture]From: [info]yiskah
2008-12-30 10:22 am (UTC)

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That picture is amazing. Would you mind if I linked to it?
From: [info]mzdt
2008-12-30 09:25 pm (UTC)

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please do, it's deliberately a public post. Thanks.
[User Picture]From: [info]charleston
2008-12-30 03:36 pm (UTC)

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Hey have you got a link or anything to Saturday's demo? for some reason I can't find anything about it online...
[User Picture]From: [info]charleston
2008-12-30 05:54 pm (UTC)

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Hey one more question - I've just got home from work and found myself thinking about that image all the way home - I appreciate the point you made about it showing that "race or tribe does not equate with government" but as an act I find it too, er, I actually can't think of a word that isn't the pun, sorry, inflammatory... I am torn between wanting to go on this demo but actually thinking I'll get too upset if there's too much anti-Israeli stuff going on... so, was there much of that sort of thing on the one you went to, or was that an isolated incident? I just can't bear being about angry people who don't listen to each other...
From: [info]mzdt
2008-12-30 09:23 pm (UTC)

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firstly, it's co-ordinated by Stop the War, who were behind the 2 million + demo when Iraq was invaded - see http://www.stopwar.org.uk/. Flyer/leaflet (pdf file) at http://tinyurl.com/97udra

Yes, that was an isolated incident, and I only posted it because of who was doing the burning. There were a few pent up palestinian teenagers running around a bit, yes, but that was the point I was trying to make - like the Iraq war, like climate change, we need to make the point that we're all pissed off, let's not let the loud ones, if you like, stop us making that point.

Anyway, thanks for even considering going. I think I've hit on a way to get people to do things - to promise not to be there.
[User Picture]From: [info]yearning
2008-12-30 09:05 pm (UTC)

off-topic, I know, but now that I see you here I wanted to say..

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hey my dear, I need to come to London soon! I wanted to go for your bday but don't think this is possible as I won't get off from work.
but sometime in february/march? for a few days? maybe I could get a ride on the boat, too??